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In defense of ani_mag

ETA: andrastewhite has clarified her position and I am no longer irked. Please see my mea culpa, written in the appropriate thread. Apologies for the misunderstanding- it was a snap response. I should've slept on it first.

I'm not in the X-Men fandom, but I am acquainted with the moderator of the new ani_mag community via therightfangirl and feel the need to step in here. With deepest respect to my good and dear friend, andrastewhite, whom I adore: Dial down the sanctimony, y'all.

I'm as pro-slash as anyone on the left side of my friends list, despite being right-leaning on many issues and "southren." Hell, I'm pro-tentacle pr0n. But I also believe in a little thing called "live and let live"- or, to put it in Constitutional parlance, freedom of association. This is a big, wide world here at Live Journal. I know because I'm smack dab at the center of it. I live a double life everyday, sneaking glances at politically conservative analysis one moment, and writing essays on the virtues of alien slash the next. And the amazing thing is, somehow I manage. Why can't we all, to paraphrase Joseph Sisko, just stick to our sides of the galaxy and leave each other alone?

If you want to debate gay rights, that's cool. That's worthy. That's what democracy is about. And we have communities right here on Live Journal where you can have smack downs on the issues: liberal and conservatism are both open communities as far as I know. And I believe there are other communities designed for general and specialized political debates. But coming down on a fandom community that is one among many and demanding that this one community change its standards because their current standards don't jive with whatever political ax you're grinding? No way, chicas- that doesn't fly with me. You certainly wouldn't like it, I'm sure, if you started a community exclusively dedicated to, oh, say, tentacle pr0n in Babylon 5 fandom (say- now that I've brought it up, I'm almost tempted ;)) and some "right-wing puritan" came around and demanded that you change your submission standards to allow family-friendly gen.

A moderator has every right to decide what does and doesn't get posted to a community she controls, whether that moderator is a conservative Christian or a left-wing atheist. Again, freedom of association, yo- it's one of the other nifty clauses you can find in the First Amendment. If you want a place to post your slash, make your own community. It's stunningly easy around here. I promise it won't hurt a bit.

Hell, you can even call it "ani_mag_sux," although that would be incredibly juvenile, and I've always had the impression that we were all adults 'round he-ya.

Ye Olde Necessary Disclaimer (since any break from LJ orthodoxy requires one, alas): I'm not anti-gay. I'm not anti-slash. I run an archive that allows fic of all stripes, including slash. So save the "omghomophobia!" accusations for someone else, 'k?

Yuck. You! Politics! Get the hell out of fandom!


Hmm, I just went and read the ani_mag info page. I can understand this person's reasoning even though I don't agree with it, but appending the labels 'safe' and 'clean' to a heterosexual happy family sounds not only discrimatory but foolish as well. Maybe she could have written the community information in a less inflammatory way, ie. with a modicum of tact.

That's my two-cents worth, for what it's worth.
That's a fair assessment, but the First Amendment applies to people who are difficult and controversial as well as to the shiny, happy folks, so says the ACLU.
That's perfectly true, but I didn't see anything in Andraste's post about not letting her run her community, or even about boycotting it, which would be a legitimate form or protest. It's also freedom of speech to say so when you think something's discriminatory and why. Homophobia is a social problem; part of the solution is talking about it.
See my mea culpa for my misinterpretation, addressed to andrastewhite herself. As I said to her, I'm admittedly over-sensitive.
See my mea culpa for my misinterpretation, addressed to andrastewhite herself.

But this I will not let stand:

Perhaps you don't feel that the insinuation that one's friends, family, and/or fellow-fans are somehow too inherently vile by their mere existence to even let children know they exist is offensive enough to respond to.

I over-reacted based on a RL-related hypersensitivity. I have apologized. Period. DON'T. YOU. DARE put words in my mouth. You don't even know me or interact with me on a regular basis.
Thank you for that very eloquent post. I didn't see it until now.

I don't know what it was in response to, but I also don't care to. I've only seen a couple of rants sent to me personally about AniMag, but then, I don't associate regularly in any other fannish groups on LiveJournal. I really don't care what anyone has to say about me, my beliefs, or my actions--all of which are things that aren't going to change for anything or anyone. I sure as heck don't need to defend my support of fiction that is wholesome by *anyone's* standards.

As I see you clearly understand, I created the community for those who DO believe in its principles. Those who don't need have nothing to do with it. They'll probably never even hear of its existence again, because now that I've gotten the word out once for any like-minded lurkers who may want to join me, I've returned to my own circle--which wishes solely to be left to itself.