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Beautiful Stark: A Picspam Celebration

Stark is a beautiful being.

(Images from Paul Goddard Down Under and Farscape World)





This has to be one of my favorite shots from the entire mini. Just gorgeous!

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And this has to be my favorite shot of all time. Stark looks so... beatific.



The S/Z 'shipper in me picked this one.



This moment of quiet angst is my second favorite shot of all time.



Stark with my other favorite character.



There is so much feeling and compassion in this shot.



Another corona image. The composition is just fantastic.



And thus ends tonight's dose of pure, shameless Stark squee. *g*
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Comments

1. It depends how you read it. I'm totally on board with the stalker Banik motif, as you know, but it honestly didn't quite strike me as that, even if Aeryn also thought it was sexual. He sounded angry... and given that he just came from crying over watching his own lover sitting at a mirror as her skin peeled off, because she'd traded her life for Aeryn's, well, yeah, I think he was angry about it - angry that Aeryn was standing there, healthy and beautiful, while someone he loved was sitting in her room covering over wounds and sores so people couldn't see her dying.

Is that an emotionally unhealthy moment? No doubt. It's not a healthy expression of anything. But it's brief, it's understandable, and I don't think it's sexual obsession.

2. I gave canonical support. :) That was a Stark-Aeryn line, without even the added benefit of the reinforcement of a relationship. Sure, you could argue that was beaten-down Stark, and I'd concede it could be. But she didn't slap him down and gave him the opportunity to help if he needed to, and he independently recognized that hovering wasn't helpful to her.

3. I don't think Zhaan was showing tenderness and compassion. I think she was showing fatigue. Her body language was impatient, and almost a little resentful that she was being made to do it. I think she was just too tired to deal with it; she was dying, as you say, and everyone was seeing how run-down she was. But, you know, that also didn't read like the first time they'd had that interaction dynamic. He threw a tantrum, and it seemed very deliberate, and she seemed resigned to it.

And I'm free to blithely ignore future episodes that haven't happened yet. :) But, let's be honest, emotional moments featuring secondary characters are a bit sparse in Farscape anyway. They happen, they're occasionally repeated, but they don't build to anything. The Aeryn/Pilot thing; clearly they're close, but they can go episodes without any conversation at all, and then we get "oh yeah, a moment of emotional connection". Sometimes they forget the "oh yeahs". BTW, Aeryn was, aside from Zhaan, the only one to to try really hard to protect Stark from the Plovakians, and, as she went first, without prompting. (And now you're going to make me re-watch all those episodes I haven't seen in months, aren't you?) :)
1. Ooh, that's an interesting interpretation of that scene, and a believable one, and not one I'd thought of. I tend more towards the "Zhaan left her own 'psychic scent' on Aeryn and it's confusing the poor boy and leading him to transfer things he feels for Zhaan onto Aeryn in an unhealthy way" theory. Which, btw, I do think is consistent with his later behavior towards Aeryn, which does occasionally border on stalker-Banik.

2. Yes, it's canonical support. I'm just not sure how strong it is. That one line is a flimsy basis on which to make a case. :) Nevertheless, I concede it's something, and there's never much in the way of really strong evidence for anything involving Stark, anyway.

3. Well, I think there was some of that on her part, yes. I also -- and this may just be me projecting -- see something that might be akin to guilt on her face for a moment there, as if she's only just realizing just how very, very badly her making this sacrifice is going to damage him. Which may be yet another reason why she didn't want to argue.

I think Aeryn was trying to protect Crais and Talyn, rather than Stark in TUT. I suppose she could having simply blamed it all on him, but Aeryn's big on team loyalty, y'know? And Stark, whatever else he may be, was one of her crewmates at that time.

The point about emotional stuff is taken, but I really don't get a caring sort of vibe from her in any of her other interactions with Stark, ever. I really wish I did.
1. It may be consistent with his later behavior; I wouldn't doubt it. But I really don't see it there. I also think yours is the more complicated explanation, which tilts my probabilities against it - there's not a lot of textual support for mystical alien shit at that stage. And given how incredibly focused he is on getting Zhaan to that planet where they can plant her, I really have doubts that he'd sort of... transfer his feelings, you know? He's seriously focussed on Zhaan both those episodes, she and her dying never leave his head for a second. I can't quite buy that he needed to be reminded of her and her need for him. I can buy that Zhaan dying made him act out.

2. Yes, it's flimsy, but I haven't seen anything between SIW and PKW. :) And before that, yes, there's stuff about Stark not managing to help in LGM, but there are very places where he's asked to between there and SIW. But in SIW, for instance, he's remarkably on task until he realizes Zhaan is about to die - he's working, and reliably, through that episode (and shutting up his distractions). ;) The guy can focus and know what to give; there's no indication that, provided some sort of emotional payoff for focussing, he can't judge his best contribution and behave as part of the team, and without hovering over anyone - he knew it was expected that he work for the good of the crew and not fuss over Zhaan, the others be damned, and that's what he did. Over time between LGM and SIW, he'd gotten the incentive to do that, and he'd settled down. The guy does learn how people want to be treated and expect him to behave, it's clearly not a behavior he's incapable of changing.

3. I do think that's you projecting. :) I think that was a very ugly, dysfunctional moment between them, and neither one showed a great deal of grace. Nor should they be expected to; the woman's dying and he's being broken apart by it, neither one of them is really happy about it.

IIRC, Aeryn's account was, aside from Zhaan's, the only one that didn't place Stark at or near the firing controls; where, we learn, he actually was. It was not the truth, and there was no reason for that untruth, aside from diminishing suspicion on Stark. It may well have just been protecting the team, but it was lying to protect the team, and actively protecting Stark, rather than simply failing to blame it on him.

Aeryn doesn't give caring sorts of vibes. She's not a caring sort of person. Pilot gets a little, but, frankly, Pilot gets more "caring" than even John does. We learn about her episode one attraction to John how many episodes later, and with how little emotional display on her part? Frankly, when it comes to Aeryn, there's just next to zero emotional display.
1. I think my explanation does explain his later behavior, and mystical alien stuff is central to everything that's going on with those characters at that moment, so, while Occam's razor might favor you on that one, I don't think it compels any particular conclusion. Nevertheless, you're convincing me, because that interpretation fits that scene very well, at least when it's taken in isolation. Hmm. Am now developing urge to go and watch that bit again.

2) Wait, was I arguing with you? Because I agree with almost every word you said here. Damn. I suck at this devil's advocate thing. :)

3) Agreed that that moment is just pure angst, and, however you interpret the specifics -- and I actually think there are multiple layers of emotional stuff going on there -- it isn't an especially functional moment. And, yeah, there isn't any way at all that it could be, really.

True, Aeryn's not a caring sort of person, but even with John there was some indication of interest there. Not even necessarily romantic interest at first, but some, well, chemistry. I get absolutely zip from Aeryn towards Stark in that regard. Nada. No sense that she genuinely cares about him as a person at all, except when his lover (who is also Aeryn's friend) is dying because of her, and I think anyone would feel a certain emotional something under those circumstances, even for someone they didn't have any great liking for or connection with. But, of course, that comes down entirely to subjective impressions, and my own subjective impression really is based almost entirely on post-SIW episodes of S3, which is where we mostly see her interacting with Stark.

Actually, if anything, I think she sees him mostly as something of a child: a rather annoying child, but one you have to protect because he can't protect himself and try to have a patience with until your patience finally runs out. Indeed, she explicitly compares him to a child at one point.

Um, I think the upshot of all that is that you really need to watch the rest of S3. :)
Oh, there's no doubt I need to, yes. :)

But what if a small part of their interaction was tweaked at this stage in S3? As you say yourself, he falls apart when Zhaan dies, and no one cares enough to treat him like anything but an annoyance. I'd think that the person Stark was at the end of S3 would be quite different with different interactions springing from even minor, minor changes of interpretation at this point, so I'm not sure saying "that's how she reacts to him later" necessarily changes how her interaction with him now can be perceived. It's like saying it's out of character for S2 Zhaan to be interested in Stark, because in S1 she's grabbing John's crotch and sharing Unity with him. The characters move on, you know? But the possibilities exist. I mean, I'm not going to convince anyone that J/A didn't happen (although I can live in hope). ;) What I need to show is that Stark/Aeryn could have happened, and worked.
Oh, there are always possibilities. I do think that, if you're going to write Stark/Aeryn, it pretty much has to be AU, for a whole slew of reasons. But, I do very definitely believe that even very small changes could potentially have very big effects on where the characters end up. I think you could easily write, say, post-SIW Stark/Aeryn and have me believe it, although getting me to believe it as a healthy, stable, long-term relationship would be a lot more of a challenge. :) Develop it in the right way, though, and make sure to take all the necessary stuff -- like the existence of J/A -- into account, and it might work. Hey, I'll believe anything, if it's done believablely. ;)
One-night stands you can fit in anywhere. But, by definition, a longer relationship that isn't shown, while an alternative one is, is AU. You can't just argue that it's happening off-screen. (Okay, unless you want to depict a really secret love affair, or something, which wouldn't... hrm... no, would be more trouble than it's worth, really. For today.) :)
I'm not sure even a one-night stand works for Stark and Aeryn, at least if it's set before the end of S3. There's a bit of dialog right before he leaves that completely convinces me it didn't happen. Which is why that little angsty Stark/Aeryn bit I wrote when you poked me for one is very much AU in my mind, even though it could perfectly easily have happened.

I've seen "long-term love affair that happened offscreen" done. I've even seen it done convincingly. (Well, at least convincing to me.) But there's no way in hell it works on Farscape, IMO. For starters, the old, "Well, they wouldn't have shown the sex onscreen even if it was happening" argument which I've often heard applied to, oh, other shows of our mutual acquaintance, just completely doesn't wash. :)

And, man, I really feel like we ought to be apologizing to <lj user="hobsonphile> for overwhelming her LJ again. We, um, seem to do this a <I>lot</i>. :)
Ooh, S4, and a whole new set of OTP opportunities... ;)

But, yeah, it doesn't work for Farscape, at all. If it were going on, they'd show it. You know, I might buy that we're not seeing a secret love affair between Pilot and a DRD, or something, because they're not giving it screen-time, but it's a bit obscure. And if someone in another relationship were having a bit on the side, it would be shown (and has been), and since it's not, you can assume it isn't. So, yeah, off-screen doesn't wash - it has to be AU.

But this time, she started it. :)
Well, he's not really there in S4. :)

Aargh! Pilot/DRD?! *is blinded by disturbing mental images*
What the hell is it with this guy and his long absences? Did he want people to think D'argo or, god forbid, Crichton, was the main character, or what? :)

Hey, it was the best example I could come up with. Make it Pilot/Noranti, if you prefer. ;)
OMG! Pilot/DRD! That is so tempting...

And by the way, no apologies are necessary for clogging up my journal. It's interesting. And often screamingly funny.