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Birthday Party!

To generate party conversation, let's say we play a little game. *g*

Ask me anything- anything at all, so long as it's fandom related (no personal disclosures tonight).

And selenak, before you ask (because I so know you're going to *g*), the updates for Enemies & Allies will be up by Wednesday at the latest.

The Monster List of My Fandoms, Past & Present

(Favorite characters, if I have any, are in parentheses.)

Mathnet
St. Elsewhere (Dr. Craig was an excellent bastard... and of course, Elliot Axelrod. Shut UP!)
Star Trek (Dr. McCoy and the whole frelling cast of DS9)
Chicago Hope
Early Edition
Boston Public (Scott Guber)
Stargate SG-1 (Jack and Daniel)
Babylon 5 (Vir, Londo and G'Kar. Duh.)
Farscape (Pilot! Still! OMG!)

Comments

Re: Happy birthday!

I just finished the Look at the Princess trilogy tonight. And let me tell you, the description on the back of the DVD case is horrid. Based on that summary, I was very skeptical going in. Fortunately, I was pleasantly blown away. *g*

They are beginning to add some more political layers to this universe. I like that. I like the concept of the Sebacean PK's having an enemy with which they are competing for influence. And I grow more and more eager to learn the specifics of Scorpy's motivations.

And, I still cry over Pilot and am still very drawn to the humanity of Moya.

Chiana/D'Argo, on the other hand... meh. I'm not really feeling the chemistry. However, as it stands now, I like John/Aeryn with its tenseness.

Re: Happy birthday!

Summaries - I remember the one from Blade Runner on video, which sucked beyond belief and was totally the opposite of what this film, one of my favourites, is like.

I like that. I like the concept of the Sebacean PK's having an enemy with which they are competing for influence.

Lots more on Scarrans to come.

And I grow more and more eager to learn the specifics of Scorpy's motivations.

Which have a lot to do with same. In season 3, you get a wonderful Scorpius pov and background episode, Incubator, in which we learn about his childhood and motivations in detail.

I still cry over Pilot and am still very drawn to the humanity of Moya.

Unfortunately, the Moya-dies-no-she-doesn't plot fell flat for me, because a) I knew she wouldn't, and b) I had to measure it against the Blake's 7 episode Terminal, in which the (also half-organic) ship of the crew DOES die, and doesn't come back, and it's so incredibly moving.

Anyway, doesn't mean I don't love Pilot and Moya both.

Chiana/D'Argo, on the other hand... meh. I'm not really feeling the chemistry.

I couldn't see it back then, either. Mind you, the results of that relationship did some interesting stuff for both characters - it's just the falling in love part which I never quite believed.

Re: Happy birthday!

In season 3, you get a wonderful Scorpius pov and background episode, Incubator, in which we learn about his childhood and motivations in detail.

Excellent! I'm ordering the third season now. *g*

I had to measure it against the Blake's 7 episode Terminal, in which the (also half-organic) ship of the crew DOES die, and doesn't come back, and it's so incredibly moving.

Ah. See, I don't have this standard. You are, however, enlivening an interest in watching Blake's 7. *g* Unfortunately, I already know how that one ends, but that's not quite the same thing as seeing it.

I couldn't see it back then, either.

Good. I'm glad I'm not the only one. *g*

So, any other burning questions? *g*

Re: Happy birthday!

It's probably impossible these days to watch B7 and not know how it ends, but that hasn't stopped any new watchers yet from being devastated. (BTW, the death of Zen - the bord computer, in lack of a better term - and the Liberator, i.e. the ship, takes place a season before that.)

Okay, other questions:

Farscape: As of Look at the Princess, does our boy John look a tad unstable to you, and if so, what do you think is the cause? (Unless you've been spoiled for that.)

B5: Aside from Cartagia, what other candidate could you see visiting Vir on Day of the Dead?

DS9: if you had lived in that universe, would you, in season 7, have thought section 31 was justified in doing what they did, or would you have agreed with Bashir? (I'm phrasing it carefully as not to spoil Deborah and Andraste, but I'm referring to two different things - what happened to Senator Cretak, and what turns out to be the case in the final episodes.)

Re: Happy birthday!

As of Look at the Princess, does our boy John look a tad unstable to you, and if so, what do you think is the cause?

Yes to the first. As to the cause, I think the cummulative effects of being tortured, being on the run, and being far from home can explain much of it. But I also wonder whether it was just a coincidence that of all the beings in the universe, Crichton's mind conjured Scorpy in Crackers Don't Matter.

Aside from Cartagia, what other candidate could you see visiting Vir on Day of the Dead?

Ooh, good question. Lennier got Morden, but it would've made sense if Vir was visited by him as well. I would also be curious to see the results of such an encounter between Vir and Refa. Or, Vir and Emperor Turhan. Or, Vir and Urza, past and current friends of Londo.

DS9: if you had lived in that universe, would you, in season 7, have thought section 31 was justified in doing what they did, or would you have agreed with Bashir?

Being more hawkish than you, I am prepared to accept a certain level of manipulation and underhandedness in war. But full scale genocide is waaaay over my moral line.
I'm relieved to hear it. Actually, what they did to Cretak reminded me very much of John Le Carré novels. (Le Carré being credited with changing the spy novel genre by being the first to present the Western secret services using the same dirty tricks the Eastern ones did.) You mostly understand the motivation, but you still have to wonder - if you're fighting over more than territory, will using said means not make it pointless?

I loved that DS9 gave us regulars like Sisko and Bashir who answered this question differently, thus challenging the viewers to make up their own minds instead of giving them one unified view point.

Fun question: which of the other Doctors in Trekdom would have gotten along with Dr. McCoy best, in your opinion? Whom would Bones have hated on sight?
I loved that DS9 gave us regulars like Sisko and Bashir who answered this question differently, thus challenging the viewers to make up their own minds instead of giving them one unified view point.

Yes. Possibly DS9's greatest strength was that it frequently allowed a clash of worldviews without outright vilifying one or the other viewpoint. Like, for example, Kira and Sisko on the subject of religion.

Fun question: which of the other Doctors in Trekdom would have gotten along with Dr. McCoy best, in your opinion? Whom would Bones have hated on sight?

Hmm. I'm afraid I can't really comment on Voyager or Enterprise, having only seen but half a season of each. But I think Bones would've liked Dr. Crusher and would've considered Bashir to be too cocky for his own good (which, in my opinion, is often true).
Well, yes, but you know, I think Bashir would have gone totally fanboy on the legendary McCoy and would have done what he did with O'Brien, i.e. pester him so long that the poor guy actually found himself liking our Julian.*g*

And speaking of Bashir, did you read my "Five Things Which Never Happened to Garak and Bashir" in recent days?
I have not had an opportunity to read the Five Things, no. I also see that Deb has written Odo fic. Both are going on my "To Read" list. *g*

As for Bashir the Fanboy: Perhaps. *g*
I can just see it, McCoy visiting DS9 and Bashir not shutting up once no matter the insults (starting with "I'm a doctor, not a babysitter!")...

Also, it occurs to me that McCoy slept with (Emony)Dax (Jadzia: "He had the hands of a surgeon"), so that presents a fun angle as well.*g*