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Dignity- by muffinmonster

Because I have no computer access at work, I spend my lunch breaks reading B5 tie-ins.

Is it just me, or does Jeanne Cavelos have an annoying habit of restating the same thing five times in a single chapter? How many different ways can you say that Elric was devastated upon leaving his place of power anyway? It's like she thinks we can't remember from one page to another what's happened before.

An editor is needed here. Seriously. Though the base story is not too bad at all. So far, it hasn't changed my mind about the technomages being asshats by and large, but I am actually somewhat interested in seeing how Galen develops.


Jeanne Cavelos definitely wrote the weakest of the canon tie-ins... Like you, I wasn't too bothered about technomages (still haven't seen Crusade, which is part of that, of course), and was rather annoyed by her style. There's some cool stuff in there, though.

Have you read her other one? "The Shadow Within"? It's about the Icarus. Similar flaws / annoyances, but again, there's some decent stuff in there.
Jeanne Cavelos definitely wrote the weakest of the canon tie-ins...

And I have to admit that selenak is right: J. Gregory Keyes wrote the strongest. Though I think The Legions of Fire is still my favorite series, even with its flaws. Because, you know, Londo and Vir.

Once I've finished with The Passing of the Technomages, The Shadow Within will be the last canon tie-in I will need to read before declaring myself "caught up" on the novel front.
Again, agreeing with you there. I think my favourite is "To Dream in the City of Sorrows", which is just gorgeously written, as well as being about two of my favourite characters... I love the way it just fits perfectly into canon, too.

But overall, I do think that the Psi-Corps series is the best. It's sort of the In the Beginning of the tie-ins, you know? Whereas To Dream is more like Thirdspace. Legions of Fire is a really good series, though.
To Dream reminded me that I love Sinclair, so I'm in complete agreement there. *g*
I couldn't finish those books. Although I liked Galen on screen, her Galen couldn't make me care about him at all. None of her characters engaged me.

OTOH I absolutely loved the Centauri Prime and Bester trilogies.
You know I love the CP trilogy. *g* And I finally read the Bester trilogy a few weeks ago and loved that series as well.

I actually tried to read the technomage novels two years ago and lost interest, so I know exactly what you mean. But now the completest in me is pushing forward. Since I will be expected, in less than two weeks' time, to speak on B5 intelligently in front of an audience, I feel like I should know all- or at least most- of the canon out there.

I dread watching the rest of the movies, though.

They're better than the technomage trilogy!
I can't remember that particular fault, but then I never read the technomage trilogy. I did read The Shadow Within, though. It's the book that makes londonkds go beserk if you mention it, not because of the way it's written but because of the presentation of Morden. I share some of his objections in this regard.
When I finally read The Shadow Within, I shall have to seek out his objections. *g*
I haven't read the book in question, but, y'know, it seems to me that a lot of tie-in books share that flaw. I've read some Buffy novels that had me yelling, "Yes, I know that! You only said it six times so far! Get on with the story!" Argh.

I have the first two books of the Centauri trilogy, but apparently the third is now some kind of obscure collector's item, for reasons I entirely fail to understand. Sigh. Amazon.co.uk claimed they could get a copy for me in, oh, six weeks or so. I'm hoping they come through...
I've heard that most of the Buffy tie-ins are terrible. And I know a lot of the Star Trek novels are equally bad. B5 is kind of lucky, I think, that its later novels- outlined by JMS himself- turned out better than the early attempts. *has heard horror stories*
The "Gatekeeper Trilogy" isn't at all bad, but most of the Buffy tie-ins I've read have been beyond terrible. Let me put it this way... I have a friend who watches for killer asteroids for a living. One day, her husband sent me an e-mail saying that, uh, it looked like we might be in serious, deep-shit trouble of the "large scary space rock" kind very, very soon, and he just thought I might want to know. Turned out it was a complete false alarm, of course. But my one regret when I thought it was within the realm of possibility that the world might be going to end, was that I'd wasted the last week reading a shitty Buffy novel. That's how bad some of those books are. :)

I know a lot of the Star Trek novels are equally bad.

Back in my younger, stupider, Trekkier days, I used to read those compulsively. But they got worse and worse as my tastes got pickier and pickier. These days, I'll pick on up once in a great while, if I find it at a library sale for fifty cents, or if it's by an author I think highly of. Otherwise, I find I'm much happier without them.

I think Doctor Who has had far and away the best luck with tie-ins. (Well, OK, it's not luck, really, it's a willingness to encourage actual creativity.) But even those have been really uneven.
I like this trilogy. Though I agree, that sometimes Cavelos writes rather tiresomely. Her Galen becomes a little Garry Stuish in the third book and it causes irritation. But as a whole, all trilogies have turned out successful.
Having read a number of bad Star Trek tie-ins, I would have to agree that, overall, the B5 canon tie-ins are actually amazingly good on the whole. Still, can't say I love the technomage trilogy so far. I do like many elements of the story, once I get past the rising urge to smack some of the characters.
You know, I never was the technomages fan before but after perusal of Cavelos' trilogy I have become interested in them. Personally my character whom I would like to smack, its Morden (in her interpretation). In my opinion his motives were not convincing...
Ah, selenak mentioned above some trouble with Cavelos' interpretation of Morden. I haven't really seen a great deal of him yet, so I suppose it remains to be seen whether I will be convinced or not.

My opinion of the technomages, meanwhile, is probably colored by the fact that I read the Centauri trilogy first and was thoroughly disenchanted with how they treated Vir. I am willing, however, to allow this author to change my mind, if she can.
My first trilogy was telepath's trilogy and it was wonderful (at least two last books). Centauri trilogy was next... and I should say, technomages have been very poorly described there... Centauri turned out at P. David better. But all trilogies had their strengths. Keeze perfectly knows language (playing with words I mean), P. David possesses humour and Cavelos is able to keep attention of the reader. Because her books contain most of all action in comparison with other trilogies
I would have to disagree about Cavelos being particularly engaging, but hey. I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree. *g*
^_^ well, let's tell so... her (Cavelos) books are very informative...maybe even too informative sometimes *g*
And, btw...We have begun Lincolni plot on the sly ...
here is link... http://www.livejournal.com/users/oc_muses/1869.html?thread=16205#t16205

*waits eagerly for developments*