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Another icon request- this time for Londo/G'Kar h/c

The Shadow of His Thoughts has once again found its way into various B5 discussions courtesy of selenak- and it's making me want iconage based on one of the most glorious, yet simple, lines in the whole story:

"He is your freedom, and you are his."

Damn.

Consider the full meaning of this: JMS is reminding us that Londo and G'Kar (or Londo/G'Kar, as some of us stranger minds prefer ;)) is not a one-way deal, with G'Kar giving salvation and Londo receiving it. No. What JMS implies here is that something similar is happening in reverse- that there is something Londo gives to G'Kar as well.

Londo would probably say some Londo-ish version of "Of course I give G'Kar something. I remind him he's not divine, but a mortal being with mortal desires." But it goes deeper than that. However unintentionally and unconsciously, Londo provides the means by which G'Kar finds his own salvation. G'Kar has an epiphany, but remember that he has to trample violently over Londo to get it.

I've written about this at length before, but the central core of the analysis bears repeating: For Londo and G'Kar, revelation and change is always (and sometimes violently) found through the other. For G'Kar, enlightenment came in the midst of a mindrape. On the flip side, Londo's redemption comes in stages and all of these stages involve Londo's relationship with G'Kar in some way. It begins with keeping a promise, procedes through multiple attempts to reach out, and finds a moment of beauty in a surrender of pride and an embrace of repentance.

So, yes: As I said, that line in The Shadow of His Thoughts must be icon-fied! Because, you know, it's just perfect.
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Something like that?

Where Londo is, I am never far. *g*

I was thinking of something animated, but yes, that works too. *g*

*friends*
*inserts the old adage "no man is an island"* ^__^ I like this discussion. *saves it*

Oh yeah, the mind rape. I see that as G'Kar wanting satisfaction from Londo - which can definitely be read into. *nods*

Saw something on DVD which I'd missed first time around on telly. Londo gets the seer to come to B5, & at the end of the episode she says to him "you will be emperor", then the same to Vir. Vir laughs, etc, then she says "one of you will become emperor after the other dies".
I nearly fell off my chair - SO FREAKY!!!!!!!
What JMS implies here is that something similar is happening in reverse- that there is something Londo gives to G'Kar as well.

Yes indeed. One can only speculate what would have happened if, say, Refa had been Ambassador to Babylon 5. No sparring relationship in the first season, for starters; also, G'Kar would have never felt the personal sense of betrayal in Coming of Shadows he did with Londo. He would have never had conflicted emotions about Refa, or felt the need to examine his own soul. One of G'Kar's greatest achievements is that he's able to forgive Londo (though not the Centauri in general) in the end, and that is only possible because of their intense relationship. If it had been anyone but Londo, I don't think G'Kar would have ever made it to this state of heart and mind.

And yes, it's a perfect state of mind.

OT: You got your breakfeast story, and Timov got a Valentine from Londo.*g* Will she link it in her lj?
You got your breakfeast story

And it was excellent and oddly sweet. Thank you! *g*

(BTW, Vir has responded with a Valentine.)

and Timov got a Valentine from Londo.*g* Will she link it in her lj?

Yes, but in a locked post. *g* See my post above.

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(BTW, Vir has responded with a Valentine.)

I'm looking forward to seeing it, and Timov's thoughts. In my strictly non-Londo-muse-capacity, of course.*g*

(You realize this is going to make me stay up late, or rise early, out of curiosity, don't you?)