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londovir- by iamsab

Great Maker help me.

Thanks to theatrical_muse, I am now embarking on a serious attempt to write Vir porn. Third person Vir porn, to be sure- I don't think Vir would speak of such things directly- but it will be Vir porn nonetheless.

Between that, selenak writing Londo/G'Kar, and andrastewhite gender swapping Vir and pairing him- or her, rather- with Londo, I think misshallelujah is right- we are all hellbound. Mmm. Toasty.

On the subject of theatrical_muse:

1. Whee! londo_mollari's answer to the virginity challenge has a very subtle potential Londo/Urza reference. Love. It.

2. Meanwhile, the quizaholics that make up the Blake's 7 crowd of pups have led Vir (in post-canon voice) to try the quiz thing. And the results prove what we've been saying all along about Vir's heavenly origin. *g*

3. However, the Vir muse would like to remind us all that he is mortal. In addition to reminding vila_restal about the incident with Mariel in the thread above (in post-canon voice, obviously), the arrival of mr_morden has prompted Vir (in fourth season voice) to reflect on last week's question on forgiveness. And he concludes that forgiveness has its limits, especially when it comes to his best friend being harmed. And I'll tell you a true thing: writing the angry, passionate, standing-up-for-the-vulnerable Vir was a catharsis. Now they just need to provide me with a question that allows me to write humor. *g*

4. And finally- and I may regret this later- I have put in an application for Timov.

*facepalm*

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And finally- and I may regret this later- I have put in an application for Timov.

Oh, go on, I like Timov! JMS was cruel to call her that.

You know, I'm considering Kerril so Vila won't be so lonely in the b7_rpg game. However, repressed Deltas that they are (they did put all their clothes back on afterwards and compose themselves on separate beds) I won't be writing them anything explicit--anyway it's not my style. I'm not sure if I'll put her on theatrical_muse yet, but I think it might be fun we know almost nothing about her so I'd have free rein.
JMS was cruel to call her that.

Actually, that was Peter David, who wrote the script and had the privilege of naming all three wives. But yes, Timov rocks.

If you write Kerril, you could at least undo the one thing I didn't like about the utterly fabulous City on the Edge of Forever - the way Kerril goes from tough gunslinger to girl in need of protection as soon as she has that dress on. (I blame it on Chris Boucher giving in to a fit of belated 70s sexism, but he wrote such a great script otherwise that one really can't complain.)
I'll forgive Peter David then because of his wonderful Legions of Fire trilogy that answered my questions about Londo and Vir--and was a damned good read. He got those characters just right, and made me blub shamelessly at the end.

As for Kerril, I hate that too. She cleans herself up, washes and styles her hair, puts on a dress, and promptly loses all her toughness and intelligence. Grrr! Personally I think I'll explain it by her realising after Vila insulted her and stood up to Bayban that the leather-clad killer look doesn't work on him; so perhaps the sort of girl she's seen on viscasts will. I cringe when she screams at the spider, but maybe she's clever enough to see that Vila needs to be needed--which I certainly think he does.

I think I can work some of that into her theatrical_muse answers.
clever enough to see that Vila needs to be needed

By Jove, you've got it! That's an inspired answer and allows for the restoration of Kerril's character with the toughness and intelligence intact.

Generally speaking, I like Peter David's writing, and I like all the Centauri parts of the Legions of Fire trilogy - i.e. his characterisation of Londo, Vir, Timov, Mariel. The technomages are well done, too. Where I run into problems: G'Kar, Sheridan, Delenn and Garibaldi. Now the later three aren't that big of a problem because their participation in the plot is minimal. (Still, it jars because they come across as escapees from a sitcom in the middle of a tragedy; for a good characterisation of Garibaldi at the same period of his life, see the Psi Corps trilogy, where one brief remark of his about Londo reveals more insight - which makes sense considering the show canon - on his part than all his scenes in Legions of Fire.)

G'Kar, though... I can't quite put my fingers on it, but I don't think David did him justice, or the complexity of his relationship with Londo.

Which is why as far as tie-ins are concerned, I still think the Psi Corps trilogy rules the lot.
Vila's at his best when he's needed, so I've thought that for a while. :-)

As for 'Legions of Fire', I agree that the Centauri and the technomages were brilliantly done, but I have to admit I was disappointed in G'Kar who is one of my favourites; I'd hoped to see more of him, and what I did see was oddly lifeless. I wanted answers to what happened to Londo, Vir, G'Kar and Lyta; I got them for the first two, but I'd still like to know what Lyta and G'Kar did when they went off together. Is there a canonical answer?

I own three B5 trilogies including the PsiCorps one, which almost made me like Bester, and did make me pity him. It was also extremely well written and made me care about the characters; I'd recommend that and Legions of Fire to any B5 fan.

The other trilogy I have is the technomage one. I can't put my finger on what's wrong with the writing which is technically good, but I just don't like the characters or care what happens to them, plus the graphic violence repelled me. I have to admit I never finished it. I thought Anna was well done, perhaps because she was meant to be dehumanised, but Galen (who was a favourite of mine from Crusade) just wasn't the one I knew. OTOH Peter David wrote a believable and likeable in-character Galen.
Vir porn: you're right, he wouldn't talk of it, it has to be third person. Have fun. See ya in hell for the big convention. *g*

Londo's entry: you caught it! I'm impressed. Though I think poor Ivanova suspected, too, which is another reason why she cut Londo off right then and there.*g*

Naturally Vir is an angel.

Timov! Go, you. My, oh my. That would be fun. Londo, when talking with legate_damar about marital life in the later's entry to the "love at first sight?" challenge, called her the most honest, decent and utterly infuriating woman he knows.

And speaking of challenges, did you notice? It's Born to the Purple time!
I'm popping in here to mention that's it's ADORABLE how Vir and Vila, in character, made friends. *big huge goofy grin* I always identified with Vila because he was scared. I would've been too, in that situation. XD And who doesn't identify with Vir?
...Timov was kinda cool. Especially compared to the other two wives. *gnashes teeth at them all & tries to abduct Londo* *is stopped focibly by G'Kar -- dammit*

P.S.

More about Timov: you'll have to write all her answers to the previous challenges, of course.*g* Naturally, some of them would be very brief (A good reason to get drunk: No; virginity: *slap*), but the others ought to be intriguing.

Hee!

More about Timov: you'll have to write all her answers to the previous challenges, of course.*g*

Of course. *g* I hope you don't mind me drawing from Not in Words for some of her background. I've adopted that story as my personal Timov fanon. *g*

Naturally, some of them would be very brief (A good reason to get drunk: No;

I think I might be able to expand on that "no" answer. But yes.

virginity: *slap*)

Hee!

I picked her up mainly to get my regular snark fix. *g* I love Vir dearly. He's sweet and darling and angsty and interesting. But the snark's not in him- well, except with Morden- and I need my snark. I would pick up G'Kar for this purpose (G'Kar is now on the available list), but G'Kar scares me a little. *g*

Re: Hee!

I hope you don't mind me drawing from Not in Words for some of her background. I've adopted that story as my personal Timov fanon.

Au contraire, I feel honored.

I picked her up mainly to get my regular snark fix.

Quite understandable, and I'm sure the muse will oblige.*g* And I agree about the scariness of G'Kar.

Re: Hee!

So coool! I *love* Timov. In fact, I want to be Timov when I grow up...

(well, not actually, because that would be scary, but you get the idea)

I shall look forward to seeing her around...

D'oh!

I farked up on my html. It's too early in the morning.

*facepalm*